Rumour: Destiny of Spirits | PS4 Exclusive by From Software (Dark Souls Devs)

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#51 Novotine
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This is why SONY is having financial issues.

SONY is focused too much on hardcore gamers, who only make up a small fraction of the entire gaming population. SONY should focus on ways to make money like pay2play multiplayer and dancing games instead of hardcore BS like this.

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yeah, where's my Call of Duty MMO Dancing game? Come on Sony, give us what we want.
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#52 clr84651
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This is why SONY is having financial issues.

SONY is focused too much on hardcore gamers, who only make up a small fraction of the entire gaming population. SONY should focus on ways to make money like pay2play multiplayer and dancing games instead of hardcore BS like this.

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Me and my son are hardcore gamers. Sony will steal nearly all of them away from elsewhere with PS4 and rule the gaming world. 

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#53 dr_mindbender12
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And it will sell like sh!t and From Software will again prefer multiplatform development and nothing will change.Zeviander

Obvious butthurt is obvious.

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#54 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] you know demon souls sold over a million copies right? Zeviander
You know that this is not a PS3 game, right? In 2009, the PS3 had an already substantial userbase. If this comes out when the PS4 is barely at 10 million units, do you think it's going to do nearly as well as DmS? Really? There are many factors that go into why a game sells, and I covered them in another post already. I have a feeling this game is going to be a commercial bomb due to the fact it is going to be exclusive to an unproven platform. Do you have reason to think otherwise?

Not saying anything about Demon Souls on PS4, but the argument that games guaranteed do not sell as well on new consoles is BS. Motorstorm sold 3 million, and Resistance: FoM sold 2.5million. Both more or less available at launch. Both the best sellers in their respective series.
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#55 SolidTy
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I already posted in that other thread yesterday about this very same topic. I posted a lot more than I will post here.

The Last time Sony teamed up with From it was epic, so I'm looking forward to this next gen game.

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#56 NexApex
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All I know is Demon's Souls was amazing back when it released.

Consider me interested.

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] you know demon souls sold over a million copies right? Zeviander
You know that this is not a PS3 game, right? In 2009, the PS3 had an already substantial userbase. If this comes out when the PS4 is barely at 10 million units, do you think it's going to do nearly as well as DmS? Really? There are many factors that go into why a game sells, and I covered them in another post already. I have a feeling this game is going to be a commercial bomb due to the fact it is going to be exclusive to an unproven platform. Do you have reason to think otherwise?

 

You can say that about any new platform. Why bother releasing any games at all on any new console then? :?

I doubt this is a launch game anyway. Probably just an announcement and initial teaser for E3 at best. If Sony is picking up the tab for this one, they might see it as a minor system seller early in the console's life span. 

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#58 AzatiS
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Damn ... thats epic.
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#59 2Chalupas
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] you know demon souls sold over a million copies right? hexashadow13
You know that this is not a PS3 game, right? In 2009, the PS3 had an already substantial userbase. If this comes out when the PS4 is barely at 10 million units, do you think it's going to do nearly as well as DmS? Really? There are many factors that go into why a game sells, and I covered them in another post already. I have a feeling this game is going to be a commercial bomb due to the fact it is going to be exclusive to an unproven platform. Do you have reason to think otherwise?

Not saying anything about Demon Souls on PS4, but the argument that games guaranteed do not sell as well on new consoles is BS. Motorstorm sold 3 million, and Resistance: FoM sold 2.5million. Both more or less available at launch. Both the best sellers in their respective series.

 

That's actually true. There is less to choose from early on, so even though there will just be a few million consoles available, people will be looking for games for those consoles. A "hit" game can still sell millions of copies.

Plus even for mature consoles with 10x the amount of "installed base". At some point software sales peak, and those "installed" units get put away for good. Pretty sure we are already getting into the "decline" phase for PS3/360 anyway, and that will accelerate rapidly once the new consoles hit. Not everyone can just "save" games for when they think the next console will hit it's peak. They just have to keep doing business and hope this game is a hit like the 1st one was. If not, they will just have to do another one. :o

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#60 blackace
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I think Dark Souls 2 will be out before this. I don't see this coming out until the end of 2014. It's still good news, but I think it's a ways off.
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#61 silversix_
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yes!!!!! now show me the power of a next gen title, ps4. Its exclusive and has no excuses of looking fugly like the majority of *next gen* titles shown for ps4
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#62 drakekratos
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Demons Souls sold pretty good. Stupid Xbots.
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#63 campzor
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Already a previous thread, but I'll what I posted in that thread, LEMS ARE DONE. AWWWW YEAHHHHH

Lems are finished, even more so. AWWWWW YEAHHHHH
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#64 kickass1337
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this is the only game on PS4 that i am interested about so far. Must see some gameplay

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#65 Kholdstare14
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] you know demon souls sold over a million copies right? Zeviander
You know that this is not a PS3 game, right? In 2009, the PS3 had an already substantial userbase. If this comes out when the PS4 is barely at 10 million units, do you think it's going to do nearly as well as DmS? Really? There are many factors that go into why a game sells, and I covered them in another post already. I have a feeling this game is going to be a commercial bomb due to the fact it is going to be exclusive to an unproven platform. Do you have reason to think otherwise?

Wait wait wait so by your logic people shouldn't develop games on the PS4 because it's a new system? Why the heck do you think people will buy new systems in the first place? It's because of games like this that will help sell the PS4.
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#66 JamDev
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Regardless of system wars pissing contests, 2 new souls games makes me very happy.
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#67 Sweenix
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these games are way too hard for me
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] you know demon souls sold over a million copies right? Zeviander
You know that this is not a PS3 game, right? In 2009, the PS3 had an already substantial userbase. If this comes out when the PS4 is barely at 10 million units, do you think it's going to do nearly as well as DmS? Really? There are many factors that go into why a game sells, and I covered them in another post already. I have a feeling this game is going to be a commercial bomb due to the fact it is going to be exclusive to an unproven platform. Do you have reason to think otherwise?

Hardcore gamers are the ones who buy new consoles in the first few years. There isn't a big selection early on, and they definitely gravitate to quality games because a lot of early games are up ports or licensed crap or cash ins.

Sony doesn't expect this to sell like Gran Turismo, but Demon Souls blew past expectations on ps3. Sony didn't even want to publish it outside of Japan because it was considered so niche, but word of mouth did the game a lot of good. That's also why they didn't greenlight a sequel, which From had to change to Dark Souls- with lots of changes but still the same core- because Sony owned the IP.

It's not like going multiplat earned them pools of cash, Demon Souls(which was an all new concept/IP) sold more than Dark Souls on 360/PC combined. All platforms combined(PS3 Dark included), they probably sold a few 100k more than Demon, any profit from that was probably burned away by extra development costs across 3 systems, securing publishers, overtime, etc. With Demon, From had Sony Japan Codeveloping and sharing tools, so it's likely that they made more profit than they did on Dark.

Now, the studio head has apparently been working on this with a seperate team, while others work on Dark Souls 2. This is a good deal for all- from gets the benefits of having 2 successful series, and Sony gets a high quality exclusive successor to Demons Souls.

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#69 Raziel831991
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You SONY drones are the most idiotic people I've ever seen. How the hell do you expect corporations to run without making a profit?CallOfDutyRulez

This game is suposed to the spiritual successor of demon souls. Perhaps Im wrong but from what I hear Demon souls sold around 2 million copies and they didnt use a huge budget to make the game so its pretty obvious they made profits with it, if from software had not gotten any profits from demon souls and dark souls, namco would not be marketing Dark souls 2 as a AAA game.

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] you know demon souls sold over a million copies right? Zeviander
You know that this is not a PS3 game, right? In 2009, the PS3 had an already substantial userbase. If this comes out when the PS4 is barely at 10 million units, do you think it's going to do nearly as well as DmS? Really? There are many factors that go into why a game sells, and I covered them in another post already. I have a feeling this game is going to be a commercial bomb due to the fact it is going to be exclusive to an unproven platform. Do you have reason to think otherwise?

 

U mad? A lot of windows fanboys think they can buy a GPU call it a gen. Demon Souls is a Sony ip get over it. And now after the success of Dark Souls forget it dude. Stick with PC and just keep missing exclusives. 

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#71 casharmy
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yes!!!!! now show me the power of a next gen title, ps4. Its exclusive and has no excuses of looking fugly like the majority of *next gen* titles shown for ps4silversix_
From Software will destroy every other midevil RPG with this.    

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#72 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Poor Lems, while they have to deal with mediocre exclusives for another gen, we get the best of the best

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Appear posts.
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#74 mitu123
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The real follow up to Demon's Souls???

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Appear posts.faizan_faizan
This glitch won't go away until Monday, lol.

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#76 SonySoldier-_-
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Yet another amazing hardcore PS4 exclusive while MS continues to make kinect games for people with down syndrome.

 

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#77 Sushiglutton
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But what do I do when I want to skype my granny?
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#78 Zeviander
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Obvious butthurt is obvious.dr_mindbender12
Because I'll likely buy the game with the console when it comes out, I'm butthurt? Funny how "you're butthurt" is the only kind of response people can come up these days. I'm merely making a prediction about it's performance. I hope, for From Software's sake, I am wrong, but we'll only see in 2015-2016 when this comes out whether I am or not.
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#79 pc-ps360
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Sounds like a spiritual successor to demon's souls.

Dunno why they are naming it 'Destiny of Spirits',though.

call_of_duty_10

 

i dont think it is a successor of demon souls. either way a dark/demon souls is a known given that it will eventually get a ps4 release im a more hoping of a game like otogi. that was a great game, from software has a great record and imo i find them the best developers this gen. can wait to see destiny of spirits it will rock.

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#80 loosingENDS
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I think MS should throw the xbox brand in the garbage bin outside their offices now

I decided to put my game on PS4 too

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#81 CJ_ofCamelot
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Just when anybody out there thought they were done with console gaming and moving onto PC, Sony Strikes Again (SSA) LOL
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#82 ninjapirate2000
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They just revealed it on GT lol its a F2P game for the Vita. Looks meh. 

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#83 Aparthide
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The reveal made this thread hilarious.

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#84 Praisedasun
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Well,it was good while it lasted.

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#85 NexApex
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:lol: Now that shit was hilarious..

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#86 loosingENDS
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Just when anybody out there thought they were done with console gaming and moving onto PC, Sony Strikes Again (SSA) LOLCJ_ofCamelot

Well, PC has nothing in JRPGs, so how would anyone be done with consoles ?

All PC RPGs i want are on consoles (or run on old PCs for kickstarter ones) and PC has zero of the JRPGs i want

So it is actually PC that is completly useless to me

If this rumor is true, i will pre-order a PS4 the moment it is is available

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#87 Aparthide
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[QUOTE="CJ_ofCamelot"]Just when anybody out there thought they were done with console gaming and moving onto PC, Sony Strikes Again (SSA) LOLloosingENDS

Well, PC has nothing in JRPGs, so how would anyone be done with consoles ?

All PC RPGs i want are on consoles (or run on old PCs for kickstarter ones) and PC has zero of the JRPGs i want

So it is actually PC that is completly useless to me

If this rumor is true, i will pre-order a PS4 the moment it is is available

Vita f2p
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#88 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="CJ_ofCamelot"]Just when anybody out there thought they were done with console gaming and moving onto PC, Sony Strikes Again (SSA) LOLAparthide

Well, PC has nothing in JRPGs, so how would anyone be done with consoles ?

All PC RPGs i want are on consoles (or run on old PCs for kickstarter ones) and PC has zero of the JRPGs i want

So it is actually PC that is completly useless to me

If this rumor is true, i will pre-order a PS4 the moment it is is available

Vita f2p

Oh crap :(

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#89 DrTrafalgarLaw
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This topic bugged?

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#90 AgentA-Mi6
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This is why SONY is having financial issues.

SONY is focused too much on hardcore gamers, who only make up a small fraction of the entire gaming population. SONY should focus on ways to make money like pay2play multiplayer and dancing games instead of hardcore BS like this.

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I absolutely love this guy. I know its an act but i love his comments :lol:

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#91 Aidenfury19
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It does seem odd that they'd be working on two games at once, they're not that big a studio. Maybe Destiny of Souls is the old working title for Dark Souls II? Doesn't seem likely given how long ago it was announced and how recent this rumor is, but it wouldn't surprise me terribly either.

That being said, I hope it is a new game and more in the vein of Demon's Souls than Dark Souls. For whatever reason the later just didn't appeal to me nearly as much, if they did it in a more enclosed/claustrophobic/disorienting locale like King's Field I probably would have liked it better though.

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#92 Badosh
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Card game.
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#93 silversix_
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FU Sony.
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#94 ToScA-
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Any news on this? No official announcement?
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lol cows :lol:
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#96 2Chalupas
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Hahah. I saw that quick mention of "Destiny of Spirits" during the Vita montage and thought of this thread. That was a damn disappointment this turned out as a "false rumor" as I was hoping that would be a huge announcement for PS4. I still see lots of stuff happening for PS4 at Tokyo Game show though. Won't be surprising to see Japanese developers jumping all over the PS4, especially with news the Xbox One won't even hit those shores until 2014.
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#97 SexyJazzCat
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What a boner killer that was.

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#98 santoron
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[QUOTE="trollhunter2"]demons souls sold 2mio copies, due to word of mouthZeviander
And then From went multiplat with their next game.

 

And sold... 2.3 million?  Thanks for playing.

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#99 santoron
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They just revealed it on GT lol its a F2P game for the Vita. Looks meh. 

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LOL :lol:  Whelp that's that.

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#100 psn8214
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And it will sell like sh!t and From Software will again prefer multiplatform development and nothing will change.Zeviander

y so bitter? It's just reason #3047 not to buy an Xbone. We should all be thanking From for making an easy decision even easier.